Ted Kaye’s book: Good Flag, Bad Flag
“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race -- is his natural and normal condition.” Confederate Vice-President Alexander Stephans’ Cornerstone Speech, given on March 21, 1861
Chellese: “[It’s good to] remember why the Confederacy so willingly united under that flag. It wasn’t the design or the arrangement of it–it was the ideas behind the uprising–slavery and white supremacy.”
Beau: “The Civil War may have settled the question about maintaining The Union and created the opportunity to end slavery as an institution. But the ideas that underpinned the confederacy and American slavery never really went away.”
Beau: “Remember what Alexander Stevens said, that the races were not equal, that idea wasn’t vanquished by the war and it certainly was never unique to the South. It’s just that the confederacy willingly and explicitly embodied it, which is why the Confederate battle flag. The one that is currently on the Mississippi state flag has been claimed by hate groups throughout the country and beyond.”
Chellese: “For those looking to maintain white supremacy in a post-slavery America, where do you think they look to for inspiration?”
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